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	<title>Comments on: sync Google groups with Thunderbird addressbooks</title>
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	<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/</link>
	<description>Google and Zimbra contact sync for Thunderbird.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Laurinda Seleg</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurinda Seleg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can very easily believe that you are always anxious for a shoot. I believe it especially for a perfectionist like yourself. And there are those who become mechanical actors with repetition and so on. Obviously this has never been true for you. Raza Murad many years ago once said in an interview that when he was working with you on Namak Haram he noticed that when you would practice your lines you would even have in mind the precise way in which you would pitch your voice at every point. This goes to show that even with the greatest gifts and instincts and intelligence (as you undoubtedly have) the greatest effort is also required. Clearly this too isn't something that you've lost all these decades later. This striving for perfection, the incredible energy (which time and again just about everyone has testified to), the extraordinary will.. it is when all these things are combined that the true titan is created. Just one side of the equation can make one a successful star, even a very successful star, but not a great transcendent one. People tend to forget this all the time. And of course luck and chance are always part of the game. We can never leave out those gods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can very easily believe that you are always anxious for a shoot. I believe it especially for a perfectionist like yourself. And there are those who become mechanical actors with repetition and so on. Obviously this has never been true for you. Raza Murad many years ago once said in an interview that when he was working with you on Namak Haram he noticed that when you would practice your lines you would even have in mind the precise way in which you would pitch your voice at every point. This goes to show that even with the greatest gifts and instincts and intelligence (as you undoubtedly have) the greatest effort is also required. Clearly this too isn&#8217;t something that you&#8217;ve lost all these decades later. This striving for perfection, the incredible energy (which time and again just about everyone has testified to), the extraordinary will.. it is when all these things are combined that the true titan is created. Just one side of the equation can make one a successful star, even a very successful star, but not a great transcendent one. People tend to forget this all the time. And of course luck and chance are always part of the game. We can never leave out those gods!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 07:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just installed 0.8.33 and tried it. Everything works fine, include the Google group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just installed 0.8.33 and tried it. Everything works fine, include the Google group.</p>
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		<title>By: transmogrifier</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>transmogrifier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks... updated successfully  to 0.8.35 directly from the website since the update is not yet available from addons.mozilla.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230; updated successfully  to 0.8.35 directly from the website since the update is not yet available from addons.mozilla.org</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@transmogrifier - the addon has been updated to support Thunderbird 5.

A new version with support for Thunderbird 5 (0.8.33) was submitted to addons.mozilla.org on 26 June.  It is still in some kind of queue there.  I am not sure when it will be available for download from there - hopefully soon!

Meantime, 0.8.34 (incl support for tb5) is available at: http://zindus.com/i/download</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@transmogrifier - the addon has been updated to support Thunderbird 5.</p>
<p>A new version with support for Thunderbird 5 (0.8.33) was submitted to addons.mozilla.org on 26 June.  It is still in some kind of queue there.  I am not sure when it will be available for download from there - hopefully soon!</p>
<p>Meantime, 0.8.34 (incl support for tb5) is available at: <a href="http://zindus.com/i/download" rel="nofollow">http://zindus.com/i/download</a></p>
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		<title>By: transmogrifier</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>transmogrifier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance there's an update for Thunderbird 5.0 in the works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance there&#8217;s an update for Thunderbird 5.0 in the works?</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1711</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>papounet007 - you gave a fair summary.  There is no "good" solution.  Sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>papounet007 - you gave a fair summary.  There is no &#8220;good&#8221; solution.  Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: papounet007</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1710</link>
		<dc:creator>papounet007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 16:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I have installed Zindus and "Provider for Google agenda" in order to synchronize my Thunderbird with my android smart phone (HTC). It start working not so bad. The main issue is for distribution lists. I have tried the various possibilities but none are satisfactory.
1) If I have distribution lists in TB, they are not synced into Google contacts. Why not if there are bugs in TB as you say, but why the contacts inside the TB distribution lists are not transfered into Google contacts ? That means that it is not possible to have distribution lists in TB (even not synced to Google contacts)
2) I have tried one of the solutions proposed which is to define Google groups in Google contacts then to sync. I get new groups in TB  like zindus/.... but they can't be used as mailing list when I want to send a mail from TB ! So not usable.
3) One "solution" given above is "have Google groups and when you want to send a mail to a group, do it from Google mail" ! Clearly, it is NOT a solution : if it would, I could also completely delete TB and work with Gmail directly.

To sum up, I have no solution to have distribution lists in TB running correctly ! I would be happy not to synchronize these distribution lists if the contacts they contain would be synchronized themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have installed Zindus and &#8220;Provider for Google agenda&#8221; in order to synchronize my Thunderbird with my android smart phone (HTC). It start working not so bad. The main issue is for distribution lists. I have tried the various possibilities but none are satisfactory.<br />
1) If I have distribution lists in TB, they are not synced into Google contacts. Why not if there are bugs in TB as you say, but why the contacts inside the TB distribution lists are not transfered into Google contacts ? That means that it is not possible to have distribution lists in TB (even not synced to Google contacts)<br />
2) I have tried one of the solutions proposed which is to define Google groups in Google contacts then to sync. I get new groups in TB  like zindus/&#8230;. but they can&#8217;t be used as mailing list when I want to send a mail from TB ! So not usable.<br />
3) One &#8220;solution&#8221; given above is &#8220;have Google groups and when you want to send a mail to a group, do it from Google mail&#8221; ! Clearly, it is NOT a solution : if it would, I could also completely delete TB and work with Gmail directly.</p>
<p>To sum up, I have no solution to have distribution lists in TB running correctly ! I would be happy not to synchronize these distribution lists if the contacts they contain would be synchronized themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1655</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brainbug00 - Although I have filed your suggestions as feature requests, both of your suggestions have the following attributes:
(1) they involve adding preferences
(2) they would be used by only a few power users
(3) they are both "nice to have" ie. there is no actual harm in these features being absent

I recently ran across this 37signals suggestion to &lt;a href="http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch06_Avoid_Preferences.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;avoid preferences&lt;/a&gt;.  It is a sentiment I agree with.  Simplicity has been a high priority objective for the addon since the beginning.  Many users of the addon appreciate and comment on it.

So I dont want to pretend that your suggestions will be implemented anytime soon.  Let us see whether anything changes over time. eg. either of your suggestions may move from being a "power user" feature to one which is demanded by a majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brainbug00 - Although I have filed your suggestions as feature requests, both of your suggestions have the following attributes:<br />
(1) they involve adding preferences<br />
(2) they would be used by only a few power users<br />
(3) they are both &#8220;nice to have&#8221; ie. there is no actual harm in these features being absent</p>
<p>I recently ran across this 37signals suggestion to <a href="http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch06_Avoid_Preferences.php" rel="nofollow">avoid preferences</a>.  It is a sentiment I agree with.  Simplicity has been a high priority objective for the addon since the beginning.  Many users of the addon appreciate and comment on it.</p>
<p>So I dont want to pretend that your suggestions will be implemented anytime soon.  Let us see whether anything changes over time. eg. either of your suggestions may move from being a &#8220;power user&#8221; feature to one which is demanded by a majority.</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1652</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brainbug00 - ok, both noted as feature-requests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brainbug00 - ok, both noted as feature-requests.</p>
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		<title>By: brainbug00</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2009/11/09/sync-google-groups-with-thunderbird-addressbooks/#comment-1651</link>
		<dc:creator>brainbug00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for example the standard group "works" (in german "mitarbeiter") or when i have a group only for my phone and google but don't want it on thunderbird ;)

&#62; also would be great if the prefix (zindus/ACC@googlemail.com#) of the adressbooks could be disabled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for example the standard group &#8220;works&#8221; (in german &#8220;mitarbeiter&#8221;) or when i have a group only for my phone and google but don&#8217;t want it on thunderbird <img src='http://www.zindus.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt; also would be great if the prefix (zindus/ACC@googlemail.com#) of the adressbooks could be disabled</p>
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