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	<title>Comments on: The Google Thunderbird address book: staying in sync</title>
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	<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/</link>
	<description>Google and Zimbra contact sync for Thunderbird.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Leni, ah yes indeed. Understood completely, thanks.  I'll trial and error it to get the best settings. I think I'll run it up to 'very often' as she sets up, then sneakily lower the frequency later on.

&#60;&#62;
I can but dream of such politeness and understanding!


Cheers
M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Leni, ah yes indeed. Understood completely, thanks.  I&#8217;ll trial and error it to get the best settings. I think I&#8217;ll run it up to &#8216;very often&#8217; as she sets up, then sneakily lower the frequency later on.</p>
<p>&lt;&gt;<br />
I can but dream of such politeness and understanding!</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
M</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mark, there's no genius or deep thinking around the defaults for as_timer_delay_on_start and as_timer_delay_on_repeat.  "twice a day" seems to work fine for most people but feel free to change them to smaller numbers as you see fit.  600 seconds == 'every 10 minutes'.

To help you understand the tradeoffs - the issue is that the vast vast majority of thunderbird addons are single threaded, including the zindus addon.  Which means that when sync runs it's competing for resources with someone using the UI.  The addon breaks sync up into lots of small pieces to allow plenty of opportunity for someone to keep working in Thunderbird while sync is running.  But it's not perfect (and can't be while single threaded), so if your wife complains "hey, this sync thing is distracting me while I'm trying to read/send email" then you might want to bump up as_timer_delay_on_repeat to make it less intrusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark, there&#8217;s no genius or deep thinking around the defaults for as_timer_delay_on_start and as_timer_delay_on_repeat.  &#8220;twice a day&#8221; seems to work fine for most people but feel free to change them to smaller numbers as you see fit.  600 seconds == &#8216;every 10 minutes&#8217;.</p>
<p>To help you understand the tradeoffs - the issue is that the vast vast majority of thunderbird addons are single threaded, including the zindus addon.  Which means that when sync runs it&#8217;s competing for resources with someone using the UI.  The addon breaks sync up into lots of small pieces to allow plenty of opportunity for someone to keep working in Thunderbird while sync is running.  But it&#8217;s not perfect (and can&#8217;t be while single threaded), so if your wife complains &#8220;hey, this sync thing is distracting me while I&#8217;m trying to read/send email&#8221; then you might want to bump up as_timer_delay_on_repeat to make it less intrusive.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love one-way sync option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love one-way sync option.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tks chaps for this - a leap ahead of Google Contacts sync for me.

But I couldn't get auto sync to work - or rather - no matter how long I left it, it never autosynced. Manual sync was perfect. Ubuntu 11.10/TBird 8.0. So, as an admin post above directed, I went edit/prefs/advanced/config editor and looked for:

    * extensions.zindus.system.as_timer_delay_on_start
      the number of seconds after startup
    * extensions.zindus.system.as_timer_delay_on_repeat
      the number of seconds after the first auto-sync

The first one was set to 3600 (that's 1 hr), the 2nd to 43200 (12hrs). That strikes me as a tad glacial - advanced users will know to do it manually, but 'normal' users (e.g. my missus ...for whom all things must be automagical) would just erm...start shouting: "it doesn't work etc etc". 

12hrs??? That's effectively next day. I changed the settings to be 60 and 600 seconds. However, I get nervous when I do this, since I assume some thinking went into those defaults. Can someone enlighten me? I'm on a home network with 4 users, abt 3000 ttl contacts. Network traffic is therefore not an issue.

Tks
Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tks chaps for this - a leap ahead of Google Contacts sync for me.</p>
<p>But I couldn&#8217;t get auto sync to work - or rather - no matter how long I left it, it never autosynced. Manual sync was perfect. Ubuntu 11.10/TBird 8.0. So, as an admin post above directed, I went edit/prefs/advanced/config editor and looked for:</p>
<p>    * extensions.zindus.system.as_timer_delay_on_start<br />
      the number of seconds after startup<br />
    * extensions.zindus.system.as_timer_delay_on_repeat<br />
      the number of seconds after the first auto-sync</p>
<p>The first one was set to 3600 (that&#8217;s 1 hr), the 2nd to 43200 (12hrs). That strikes me as a tad glacial - advanced users will know to do it manually, but &#8216;normal&#8217; users (e.g. my missus &#8230;for whom all things must be automagical) would just erm&#8230;start shouting: &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t work etc etc&#8221;. </p>
<p>12hrs??? That&#8217;s effectively next day. I changed the settings to be 60 and 600 seconds. However, I get nervous when I do this, since I assume some thinking went into those defaults. Can someone enlighten me? I&#8217;m on a home network with 4 users, abt 3000 ttl contacts. Network traffic is therefore not an issue.</p>
<p>Tks<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen F. Heffner</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1777</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen F. Heffner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Basketball" -- go peddle your drugstore "philosophy" somewhere else.  We don't want it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Basketball&#8221; &#8212; go peddle your drugstore &#8220;philosophy&#8221; somewhere else.  We don&#8217;t want it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one way sync - me too.

and what about support for multiple address books? if not from Zindus, does any tool support this?

thx for what you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one way sync - me too.</p>
<p>and what about support for multiple address books? if not from Zindus, does any tool support this?</p>
<p>thx for what you do?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A vote for one-way sync

Please, please, please!?

A vote for one-way sync</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A vote for one-way sync</p>
<p>Please, please, please!?</p>
<p>A vote for one-way sync</p>
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		<title>By: XTRAN guru</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1737</link>
		<dc:creator>XTRAN guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 19:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leni -- I don't understand why selectable one-way sync seems to languish somewhere down your list, despite enormous demand.  It seems to me that it would expand the usefulness of your add-on tremendously.  I maintain Tbird as my canonical address book, and I want to sync Google with it.  I do NOT want my Google address book to affect my Tbird address book in any way.  Until one-way sync arrives, I can't use your add-on safely.  I suspect there are many others who also have a canonical version of their address book, be it Outlook, Tbird, or Google, and just want to keep other address books in sync with it.  To be safe, that requires one-way sync.
My 2c, FWIW...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leni &#8212; I don&#8217;t understand why selectable one-way sync seems to languish somewhere down your list, despite enormous demand.  It seems to me that it would expand the usefulness of your add-on tremendously.  I maintain Tbird as my canonical address book, and I want to sync Google with it.  I do NOT want my Google address book to affect my Tbird address book in any way.  Until one-way sync arrives, I can&#8217;t use your add-on safely.  I suspect there are many others who also have a canonical version of their address book, be it Outlook, Tbird, or Google, and just want to keep other address books in sync with it.  To be safe, that requires one-way sync.<br />
My 2c, FWIW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quena</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/10/06/the-google-thunderbird-address-book-staying-in-sync/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>Quena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 15:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 One-way sync request</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 One-way sync request</p>
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		<title>By: brainbug00</title>
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		<dc:creator>brainbug00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice that foto-sync now works...
next will be first and last name? that would be great ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice that foto-sync now works&#8230;<br />
next will be first and last name? that would be great <img src='http://www.zindus.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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