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	<description>Google and Zimbra contact sync for Thunderbird.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mark - point taken.  UI aims to be non-instrusive but perhaps it is erring on the side of discretion.

Will experiment with a colour indicator - eg red background behind 'X'.  Look for a change along these lines in the testing release once 0.8.15 is out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark - point taken.  UI aims to be non-instrusive but perhaps it is erring on the side of discretion.</p>
<p>Will experiment with a colour indicator - eg red background behind &#8216;X&#8217;.  Look for a change along these lines in the testing release once 0.8.15 is out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leni - Ok that's fine, but if there is no visual reporting in the UI via a popup or something, you have no idea that:
1. Anything is even wrong
2. That you need to take action
3. Where you need to take that action

The X is no obvious, and lacking any error messaging I was out of sync for 2 weeks before noticing something was up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leni - Ok that&#8217;s fine, but if there is no visual reporting in the UI via a popup or something, you have no idea that:<br />
1. Anything is even wrong<br />
2. That you need to take action<br />
3. Where you need to take that action</p>
<p>The X is no obvious, and lacking any error messaging I was out of sync for 2 weeks before noticing something was up.</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mark, yes in general the addon will &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail_Fast" rel="nofollow"&gt;fail fast&lt;/a&gt;, so if sync with the first account failed, it won't try the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mark, yes in general the addon will <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail_Fast" rel="nofollow">fail fast</a>, so if sync with the first account failed, it won&#8217;t try the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leni  - Thanks. It turned out that one of three passwords for the accounts listed was invalid. What is strange is that (perhaps because it was 1st) the other 2 accounts never synch'd due to the one account failing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leni  - Thanks. It turned out that one of three passwords for the accounts listed was invalid. What is strange is that (perhaps because it was 1st) the other 2 accounts never synch&#8217;d due to the one account failing.</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark - to investigate the cause, visit Tools/Zindus and select 'Sync Now'.

Without any data it's premature to speculate but to hazard a wild guess: Google has recently become much more aggressive about &lt;a href="http://www.zindus.com/faq-thunderbird-google/#toc-unauthorized-token-invalid" rel="nofollow"&gt;invalidating authorization tokens&lt;/a&gt;. Version 0.8.15 will auto-recover from that situation, 0.8.14 and prior require manual intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark - to investigate the cause, visit Tools/Zindus and select &#8216;Sync Now&#8217;.</p>
<p>Without any data it&#8217;s premature to speculate but to hazard a wild guess: Google has recently become much more aggressive about <a href="http://www.zindus.com/faq-thunderbird-google/#toc-unauthorized-token-invalid" rel="nofollow">invalidating authorization tokens</a>. Version 0.8.15 will auto-recover from that situation, 0.8.14 and prior require manual intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we supposed to do on status "X" sync failed?
I see no log or reporting mechanism to deal with this?

I'm sort of stuck with no sync on contacts and I'm not sure what to do next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we supposed to do on status &#8220;X&#8221; sync failed?<br />
I see no log or reporting mechanism to deal with this?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sort of stuck with no sync on contacts and I&#8217;m not sure what to do next.</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 22:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jessica - yes, the css is messy.  There's a plan to fix it (this year).  And thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jessica - yes, the css is messy.  There&#8217;s a plan to fix it (this year).  And thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Dow</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your site displays incorrectly in Firefox, but content excellent! Thank you for your wise words:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your site displays incorrectly in Firefox, but content excellent! Thank you for your wise words:)</p>
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		<title>By: leni</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>leni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan -

As suggested, a bug report has been filed against example #3:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451306

Here are references to the discussion of each of these issues on the relevant developers lists:

example #1 - Google duplicates:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/1e745c13924ffc34/

example #2 - Google Internal exception:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/2887f1c7314cc646

example #3 - Thunderbird deleteCards:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/8100b8dd0d6becce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan -</p>
<p>As suggested, a bug report has been filed against example #3:<br />
<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451306" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451306</a></p>
<p>Here are references to the discussion of each of these issues on the relevant developers lists:</p>
<p>example #1 - Google duplicates:<br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/1e745c13924ffc34/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/1e745c13924ffc34/</a></p>
<p>example #2 - Google Internal exception:<br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/2887f1c7314cc646" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/google-contacts-api/browse_thread/thread/2887f1c7314cc646</a></p>
<p>example #3 - Thunderbird deleteCards:<br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/8100b8dd0d6becce" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/8100b8dd0d6becce</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Mosedale</title>
		<link>http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/08/05/fault-tolerance/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Mosedale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Example 3 indicates a bug of some sort.  If the extension is passing null into nsIAbDirectory.deleteCards, the bug is in the extension, otherwise the bug is in Thunderbird.  If there is a Tb bug here, it would be great if you could file a bug in Bugzilla with more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Example 3 indicates a bug of some sort.  If the extension is passing null into nsIAbDirectory.deleteCards, the bug is in the extension, otherwise the bug is in Thunderbird.  If there is a Tb bug here, it would be great if you could file a bug in Bugzilla with more details.</p>
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